What do you know about Plautdietsch speakers?

Hi, everybody:

Can anybody tell me some of these facts:

-Are current Plautdietsch-speaking people the most conservative Mennonites?? (More to the Amish style or do they use electricity and modern ammenities and are just part of the Mennonite Christian denomination??)

-Can you tell me about some communities that speak Plautdietsch in Canada or the U.S.?? (Plautdietsch is a Low German dialect and Pennsylvania German is a High Germanic one, so they are quite different)

-I assume most Plautdietsch speakers nowdays are at least bilingual, since there is also a dominant language in the country they live (e.g. English in the U.S. and Canada, Spanish in Mexico, Paraguay and South America).

-Does somebody here speak Plautdietsch?? Can you tell me some facts about the usage?? Do you use it all the time at home?? Are there Plautdietsch services at your church?? Do your children speak the language??

-I heard that people that speak Plautdietsch read the Bible in High German, is this correct?? Do you sing hymns in Plautdietsch?

Thank you!!

DANKE (Is this how you say it in Plautdietsch?)

Folks,,,, think of all the anti-democratic, stupid, pro-dictator stuff Obama has been into .. (1) spending trillions of dollars on useless PORK for his thug friends right off the back (2) shaming America with his apologies to the world, when no nation on earth has given more money or food or freedom to the world, (3) bowing down before the tyrant king of Saudi Arabia, (4) embracing murderous dictators like Chavez, (5) fighting against a smack down of a tyrant in Honduras, thus opposing democracy, (6) flying an airplane into low altitude in the heart of NYC like a 2nd 911 that scared a lot of people and cost close to half a million dollars, (7) running up an expense bill that is truly obscene, millions of dollars for him and his wife to live like royalty, (8) being in the church of Rev Wright for 20 years, a true hater of America, (9) putting over 30 czars in power of various public capacities, at US taxpayers’ expense, with no congressional oversight, (10) putting lunatic, racists in power like Van Jones, who has said so many wrong things you cannot comprehend what you are hearing from an inner advisor to the United States President, (11) flying the flag of Communist Red China at the US Capitol, (12) making pro-China comments concerning their system of government, (12) officially attending pro-Islamic religious events while forcing private Christian universities to cover up their regular religious iconic symbols when Obama visited these institutions, (13) nominating a supreme court judge who claimed that Latinos are better at making true just decisions than white judges, (14) subsidizing failing industries like GM with US dollars rather than forcing these companies to become more efficient, (15) prohibiting the exploration of oil at a time when our nation needs cheaper energy to grow the economy and create jobs, (16) working to destroy the coal industry which would create cheaper energy and jobs for Americans, (17) promoting the farce called global-warming-cap-and-trade, which thousands of scientists and millions of citizens understand to be a hoax, in order to tax energy in an outrageous fashion which would necessarily further cripple the US economy, increase dramatically energy costs to all Americans, and increase unemployment several factors more, (18) advocate the creation of a domestic military force, (19) advocate absolute control over the Internet by the US president, (20) advocate school time pro-Obama propaganda to be televised to all US school students, (21) released terrorists who were known to have killed Americans and yet seeks to criminally prosecute government officials who harshly interrogated top terrorist masterminds, (22) chose NOT to work to stop the release of the Lockerbie bomber who killed several hundred Americans, (23) working to stop the remembrance of 911 for what it is, a recognition that there are extremist, Islamic terrorists who killed 3000 Americans and still plan to, (24) refusing to release public information such as the names of guests to the White House, or past articles written by Obama, or a valid birth certificate, (25) called the correct handling of a domestic disturbance by Boston police as STUPID, implying it was racist, because the person in question was a friend of his and the police officer in question was white, (26) released from jail supporters who had were incarcerated for threatening anti-Obama voters with violence during the past election, (27) had homeland security falsely announce that there was a growing terrorist danger from conservative, right-leaning groups, (28) pushed for health care reform to be completed at such a rapid pace, a mere few weeks, so that non congress representative would have had the time to competently review a bill, thereby preventing dangerous or unjust systematic portions of the bill could be removed, improved, or revised, (29) lied on a regular basis concerning campaign promised to not have pork earmarks, to not have special interest groups have so much influence in Washington, to not tax the middle class, (30) falsely responds to criticisms of any policies as racism, and uses political power to attack dissenting individuals legally behind the scenes, (31) misallocation of funds used for homeland security by transferring these resources to locations where little or no threat exists, while the real danger areas, such as the Mexican border, go under-defended, and allow drug dealers, gangs, and kidnappers, rapists, and murders to enter our nation to the destruction of our communities and to do harm to our citizens,
(32) initially refused to condemn the killing, torture and rape of Iranian citizens protesting against thug-pro-terrorist leaders who had just stolen an election through voter fraud, (33) has amassed and organized the biased support of virtually all major TV news networks, who daily propagandize pro-Obama messages and conceal or distort all negative behavior described in just described 32 events / political efforts i

I am a Christian living with Muslims in Africa, and they are quite nice people. I would expect that they should give their children special coaching, so as not to be ignorant concerning the beliefs, events, and programmes of “The Infidels,” but this is not the case.

I gave the landlady’s grandsons a computer of their own, hoping to see them make something of it. But in the past couple of years, all they can do is Hunt & Peck typing (erm, like ME!), play Unreal Tournament- poorly- and watch the abysmally intellectually void local videos. I have lent them some of my western videos, hoping they might learn something, or take an interest. The eldest boys are maybe 16 and 13 respectively, and there are about three girls, the oldest about 15, and others under 10. A couple of the younger kids 8 and 9 seem relatively bright. However, education in our country is severely dumbed down. The former military dictators did not want students who knew how to make arms and ammunition. (A asked a University-trained medical doctor a pharmacist, and an old, experienced, semi-illiterate HUNTER-used muskets and shotguns- whether they knew the composition of gunpowder: THEY DID NOT. Not a clue!)

Last week, I caught out the elder grandchild in a simple error of comprehension, that, upon investigation, escalated into a quagmire of ignorance: he, a senior secondary school student, did not know that the prefix “kilo-” denoted “thousand.” I probed further, and found that he did not know any of the other S.I. unit prefixes “mega,” “centi-” “milli,” and so on. Nor could he tell me the difference between a centimeter, a metre, and a kilometre, nor define units of length or weight. I turned to the other kids, and found that they did not know, either! Aghast, I asked their fathers how this was possible. They replied to the effect, that, “That’s just the way it is. That is how they are taught in school.” That was last week.

I was considering the problem of dubbing the new Star Trek movie into local vernacular, when a horrible suspicion hit me. I buttonholed the elder boy: “Which is bigger,” I asked him, “”The Earth, the Moon, or the Sun?” He thought about it- this mighty strange question! “The Earth,” he said seriously. I asked his cousin, “The MOON,” he answered knowingly.

Something has been at the back of my mind for years about Islam.
Bothering me. According to an Islamic booklet I read- claiming that Neil Armstrong had converted to Islam, because he heard the *Muezzin* Call to Prayer when he was on the Moon, and thought it was just some malfunction of the comm device, then on Earth, he heard the same yodelling sound when he was walking in Cairo, so, when he learned what it was, he immediately became Muslim.

The booklet said that Saudi Arabia was the only other nation to deny the Moon landing was a fact, back in 1969. It sounded silly. But now, I am not so sure. What do they THINK the Americans claim to have done?

I asked the younger boy how far away he thought the Moon was- and he thought hard for a minute, and said that he could not even guess.
Dear *INTERN,* What *SECULAR PENGUINIST* says implies, BUT DOES NOT SAY, that after Islam, the Arabs were no longer brilliant. However, The Babylonian and Egyptian empires were the beginning of serious learning long before Christ. You might remember the stories of Jospeh, prime minister of Egypt- that Middle-Eastern country with the funny stone monuments modern technology cannot duplicate, Daniel, the most prominent of the wise men of Nebuchadnezzar, who obviuosly had serious brainpower to throw around.

The most famous doctor of all time would be HIPPOCRATES. The second, GALEN. The third would be AVICENNA, who was able to stand on the shoulders of those terrible quacks, but was much more brilliant than is widely known.

Given the enlightenment of Islamic culture, I would expect that Muslims ensure that their youth would reflect at least a fraction of it.

Dear *OBEDIENT & SUBMISSIVE MUSLIM.* These are not poor kids- I pay their parents RENT. They own a minibus and a school.
Their fathers are intelligent people. But they leave the education of their children, like everyone else, up to schoolteachers. (They own a kindergarten). This does not make sense. I asked the older boy, what he thinks it means, when he passes a roadsign, and it says, “Ile-Ife: 30km” or somesuch. (He has been seeing these things all his life.) he was dumbfounded.

Most of the beggars in our cities and towns are Muslim cripples. Recently, rich men in the capital were accused, by the government (I think it was the president or someone close), of importing beggars to the capital to beg by the roadside- FOR A CUT.

Muslim businessment are the richest in the country (foreign ties across the Northern border, which is controlled by Islamic-dominated states). They could eliminate poverty, or at least illiteracy and ignorance in a heartbeat, if they chose. The main interest seems to be to indoctrinate with Islamic religious concepts, and not transfer significant knowledge at all.

Ok…so I am a Christian and lately I have been hearing a lot about how the world is supposedly going to end in 2012. There was even a damn movie preview called “2012” that comes out next year (Good job at getting the American public worried). Well, doesn’t the Bible state how no one knows when the world is going to end except for God? Also, don’t certain events need to occur before Jesus comes back to earth? I am not too familiar with the book of Revelations, so anyone that could let me know would be great. I just don’t understand how the Mayans, who aren’t even Christians, can predict that last day of the world. I am not afraid to go to Heaven, but I am only a college student and have so many goals in my life that I want to accomplish before that day comes.

Please only respond with intelligent answers and don’t be bashing the Bible either. Thanks!
Wow when I say for intelligent responses only…that requires an IQ and knowing what the word “intelligence” means. Yes, I am a college student (not some little HS or grade school kid) who happens to have OCD…so sorry if my disorder makes me worry so much about this issue. And in my question, I mention that the Mayans ARE NOT Christians, hence why I am wondering why everyone is making such a big deal about their calendar when their religion is meaningless. The main reason why I prompted this question is because when I went to see Quantum of Solace over the weekend, there was a movie preview for the upcoming film “2012” and for the audience to google it…nice.

Is making lots of money through conferences to hear big name speakers, selling christian books, cd’s wrong ? shouldnt it be free. And is it wromg preaching prosperity to people saying they will recieve a huge blessing financially in their life if they give money in the offering ? Cause alot of big name preachers are doing it.

CHRISTIANS: How do I get kids excited about God?

I’m in a leadership class at my Catholic high school, and I’m trying to organize different events to get the students excited about their faith. They’re teenagers too, so it’s really hard to get them to get excited and actually understand what God did for them.
Any ideas?
I’m in a leadership class at my Catholic high school, and I’m trying to organize different events to get the students excited about their faith. They’re teenagers too, so it’s really hard to get them to get excited and actually understand what God did for them.
Any ideas?

I’m a teenager too…

I am 20 years old and in college, starting junior year shortly. I have flashbacks about my actions and behavior in high school. I was accused of sexual harassment, and attempted domestic abuse/rape, many times by many girls in high school. The dean and the principal called me into the office over my four years in high school and asked if these were true. I denied the charges and my parents told them to back off. The claims weren’t true; I never hurt any girl physically, never said insulting things. I did hug a girl without her permission. She knew me. I was outside during a fire alarm. It was raining, she was cold, I said “What the hell” and hugged her. She was stunned. Two months after the event happened, I was called in to the office by the principal, dean, and two guidance counselors. They accused me of hugging her inappropriately, to which I said “I did not hug her.” Lie. The charges were dropped. My junior year, I was accused of advancing on a girl, trying sexually harras/fondle her. I NEVER touched her; but the principals, deans and her parents were in the office to talk to me. They assumed I should be punished. The dean said he was going to punish me, but the charges were not true. He was going to expell me. My parents scolded the deans, told them to leave me alone because it was not true. The charges dropped. She knew who I was, we went to the same middle school. Her brother doesn’t talk to me anymore because he thinks I was trying to rape his sister. THIS IS NOT TRUE.
However, I punched a girl in the arm my junior year. She was trying to punch and kick me, I did this in self-defense. I did tell her “You talk too much”. I did bad things. The list goes ON AND ON. I think I committed more problems in high school than any other student. I called a teacher an a**h*** and also made fun of my freshman science teacher. I did not take responsibility in my school band, I refused to do work in my math and history class, I had to drop those classes and enlist somewhere else. I was failing them. I also lied about going places and also yelled at my guidance counselor. A social worker nearly had to call security when I blew up and yelled at a male student (Christian Bale style, but worse) in our college resource center; he made fun of a female student. I feel ashamed. I did fail my driver education class. I was arrogant behind the wheel, I never listened to anything the driving teacher said. I was nearly involved in a huge crash on the highway one time. Its interesting because I still have my learing permit, but I feel ashamed of looking at it because it is a haunting reminder of driver ed. I failed all the tests, never did any of the work, and shouted random things in class. In the fall, I asked the driving coach if he could change the grade. Its a long story. My parents told me that as a result of my driver education behavior, I am not allowed to drive anymore. I have not driven a car in four years. I live in the suburbs. I take the bus and train to get places, or ask people for rides.
These events flashback in my head. The ‘backs started about senior year. I can view incidents or events in high school and look at it from multiple angles i.e. classes, lunch room confrontations, football games, the events, etc. I wish I could go back in time and prevent any of this from happening.
Recently, I had an epiphany. I am thinking of going back to my high school, (the faculty are still there) and confessing and apologizing to them for what I did in high school. Its been hard in college. I don’t have a girlfriend and I cannot drive since I don’t have a license. I have not made any new friends in college and I am afraid to talk with girls because I am scared they will SEND ME TO THE DEAN OFFICE. I can’t stop thinking about high school and if I did certain things differently how different things would have been.
I wish I could move on, but these flashbacks have been with me and continue to haunt me.
Does anyone, seriously, have a suggestion at what I should do? Should I go back and apologize and serve punishment for my actions? Should I apologize to the girl I hugged? How can I get over my phobias and move on with my life?
Thank you

I know this is long, but will you please help me?

I am 17 years old and Christian and I went to this gathering for LGBT youth because I am gay. There was a table outside with Christians there and I went to them because I thought they were part of the event. My friend Karla went with me. The people at the table were adults froma church and they started saying that I would get AIDS if I was gay. And they said that the anus is made for going to the bathroom not having sex, and they embarrassed me because I’m not really comfortable talking about those things. N-E-ways, I wasn’t there to have anal sex like they assumed, I was just there to talk to people. And I wear a promise ring because I don’t want to be intimate with anyone until I meet the right man to spend my life with in a comitted relationship. I’m too young for sex, and I don’t know if I even want to do it in the ways that they kept wanting to talk about. I wanted to talk about religion and about how to form a comited relationship as a gay person, but they kept saying that God made the penis & the vagina for sex, not the anus and I got really embarrassed and I don’t know why they kept focusing on just this. My friend Karla is gay too, and their points don’t even make sense for women.

N-E-ways, I was hoping that someone here who read the Bible could help me because I am a Christian and I am gay and I just want to have love like everyone else does. And I am not going to sleep around and get AIDS and all the stuff that people say. I am a good person and a good student and one day I will meet another good person who will be a Christian man and we will have a comitted loving relationship together and follow Christ’s example to love our neighbor as ourselves.

Can you help me to know if this is OK. Pleaze?

Why do they do that? No one even listens to them, people are too busy driving.
@ Bobo Jones I heard them not listened. Learn the difference! And I’m not an atheist.

what is your opinion about this scenario?

An Atheist Professor of Philosophy speaks to his Class on the Problem Science has with GOD, the ALMIGHTY.

He asks one of his New Christian Students to stand and . . .

Professor : You are a Christian, aren’t you, son ?

Student : Yes, sir.

Professor : So you Believe in GOD ?

Student : Absolutely, sir.

Professor : Is GOD Good ?

Student : Sure…

Professor : Is GOD ALL – POWERFUL ?

Student : Yes.

Professor : My Brother died of Cancer even though he Prayed to GOD to Heal him.

Most of us would attempt to help others who are ill.

But GOD didn’t.

How is this GOD good then? Hmm?

( Student is silent )

Professor : You can’t answer, can you ?

Let’s start again, Young Fella.

Is GOD Good?

Student : Yes.

Professor : Is Satan good ?

Student : No.

Professor : Where does Satan come from ?

Student : From .. . . GOD . . .

Professor : That’s right.

Tell me son, is there evil in this World?

Student : Yes.

Professor : Evil is everywhere, isn’t it ?

And GOD did make everything. Correct?

Student : Yes.

Professor : So who created evil ?

(Student does not answer)

Professor : Is there Sickness? Immorality? Hatred? Ugliness?

All these terrible things exist in the World, don’t they?

Student : Yes, sir.

Professor : So, who Created them ?

( Student has no answer )

Professor : Science says you have 5 Senses you use to Identify and Observe the World around you.

Tell me, son . . . Have you ever Seen GOD?

Student : No, sir.

Professor : Tell us if you have ever Heard your GOD?

Student : No , sir.

Professor : Have you ever Felt your GOD, Tasted your GOD, Smelt your GOD?

Have you ever had any Sensory Perception of GOD for that matter?

Student : No, sir. I’m afraid I haven’t.

Professor : Yet you still Believe in HIM?

Student : Yes.

Professor : According to Empirical, Testable, Demonstrable Protocol, Science says your GOD doesn’t exist.

What do you say to that, son?

Student : Nothing. I only have my Faith.

Professor : Yes, Faith. And that is the Problem Science has.

Student : Professor, is there such a thing as Heat?

Professor : Yes.

Student : And is there such a thing as Cold?

Professor : Yes.

Student : No sir. There isn’t.

( The Lecture Theatre becomes very quiet with this turn of events )

Student : Sir, you can have Lots of Heat, even More Heat, Superheat, Mega Heat, White Heat,

a Little Heat or No Heat.

But we don’t have anything called Cold.

We can hit 458 Degrees below Zero which is No Heat, but we can’t go any further after that.

There is no such thing as Cold.

Cold is only a Word we use to describe the Absence of Heat.

We cannot Measure Cold.

Heat is Energy.

Cold is Not the Opposite of Heat, sir, just the Absence of it.

( There is Pin – Drop Silence in the Lecture Theatre )

Student : What about Darkness, Professor? Is there such a thing as Darkness?

Professor : Yes. What is Night if there isn’t Darkness?

Student : You’re wrong again, sir.

Darkness is the Absence of Something…

You can have Low Light, Normal Light, Bright Light, Flashing Light . . .

But if you have No Light constantly, you have nothing and its called Darkness, isn’t it?

In reality, Darkness isn’t.

If it is, were you would be able to make Darkness Darker, wouldn’t you?

Professor : So what is the point you are making, Young Man ?

Student : Sir, my point is your Philosophical Premise is flawed.

Professor : Flawed ? Can you explain how?

Student : Sir, you are working on the Premise of Duality.

You argue there is Life and then there is Death, a Good GOD and a Bad GOD.

You are viewing the Concept of GOD as something finite, something we can measure.

Sir, Science can’t even explain a Thought.

It uses Electricity and Magnetism, but has never seen, much less fully understood either one.

To view Death as the Opposite of Life is to be ignorant of the fact that

Death cannot exist as a Substantive Thing.

Death is Not the Opposite of Life: just the Absence of it.

Now tell me, Professor, do you teach your Students that they evolved from a Monkey?

Professor : If you are referring to the Natural Evolutionary Process, yes, of course, I do.

Student : Have you ever observed Evolution with your own eyes, sir?

( The Professor shakes his head with a Smile, beginning to realize where the Argument is going )

Student : Since no one has ever observed the Process of Evolution at work and

Cannot even prove that this Process is an On – Going Endeavor,

Are you not teaching your Opinion, sir?

Are you not a Scientist but a Preacher?

( The Class is in Uproar )

Student : Is there anyone in the Class who has ever seen the Professor’s Brain?

( The Class breaks out into Laughter )

Student : Is there anyone here who has ever heard the Professor’s Brain,
(this is the continutation)

Felt it, touched or Smelt it? . . .

No one appears to have done so.

So, according to the Established Rules of Empirical, Stable, Demonstrable Protocol, Science says that

You have No Brain, sir.

With all due respect, sir, how do we then Trust your Lectures, sir?

(The Room is Silent. The Professor stares at the Student, his face unfathomable)

Professor : I guess you’ll have to take them on Faith, son.

Student : That is it sir .. . .

The Link between Man & GOD is FAITH.

That is all that Keeps Things Moving & Alive.


I believe you have enjoyed the Conversation . . . and if so . . .

You’ll probably want your Friends / Colleagues to enjoy the same . . . won’t you?

Forward them to Increase their Knowledge . . . or FAITH.

It turned out later that the student was Albert Einstein..
i am an Atheist i posted this because i want to hear opinions from other people.